Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:00 Welcome to words that move me, the podcast where movers and shakers, like you get the information and inspiration. You need to navigate your creative career with clarity and confidence. I am your host, Dana Wilson. And I move people. I am all about the tools and techniques that empower tomorrow's leaders to make the work of their dreams and live a full life while doing it. So whether you're new to the game or transitioning to your next echelon of greatness, you're in the right place, friends and family. Welcome to the first ever Widom com what are we calling it again? I forgot its name already. I'm not drunk, happy hour. There it is. Happy hour, casual cocktails and Q and a for my wisdom com members. Um, I am thrilled to see your faces. Thank you all for being here. And also, uh, this is my third drink of 2022. And coming from a person who used to be a glass of nine old glass of nine. Oh, wait, you guys, am I drunk? We don't know. I used to be a glass of wine, a night type of gal. And so today's February 8th and this is my third drink of the year ninth. Great. February 9th. And I'm smashed. Thank you guys for being here. This cheers goes out to the Widom com. I love you guys.
Speaker 0 00:01:35 Ooh. And I love sparkling white wine. That is something I love. Do you want to know what that is that I have right there? I'm going to tell you what it is, and I'm going to tell you what I wish it was because I did not have time to go shopping, to procure my favorite boozy beverage. Um, so this is a very cute punny white wine. It is called simpler wines, as in simpler times from trader Joe's. They sell their little tiny cans, and this is the bluish green one. They also do a peach one, and Rosa would not recommend either of those, but these little green things. I mean, wow. Bang for the buck, such a great call. What I wish it was, however was a, uh, I don't know what it technically, I guess it's a Seco, but I have a new favorite sparkling wine.
Speaker 0 00:02:29 It is called Lunars Seco. And the only place I can find it in LA is that Italy down in Beverly Hills did not make it there this week. So simpler ones. It is, um, okay. I got carried away with my description of my wine and I forgot to do when, um, I'll start as pretty huge y'all I got a gig. I'm not allowed to talk about it, which is cool. Like that. Those are my favorite kind. Um, and I'm really excited. It's, it's special. It's like, uh, uh, unlike it's like many things that I've done, but it's unique. It's not like anything that I've ever done, so I'm stoked about it. So the break, my win, um, anybody else have a win they'd like to voice today on the podcast in perpetuity forever. Um, Dinko, what's your one.
Speaker 1 00:03:24 My win is that I also got a gig teaching and I had some training happening and then it was all on my timing in it. I trained some before this and it's like, I have this thing that's important to me that I'm still going to be there for it, but I'll still come and train beforehand. So I got to do both.
Speaker 0 00:03:43 Yes, you did. I love both. And, and I love training. Yeah. This is big. I recorded, um, a podcast earlier today, uh, for money March. So it's, it's a little ways out. I love being ahead. And I was talking to the fabulous Jerry Brown, who, if you do not know, you will, soon I'm seeing shoulder rolls. Um, she's so great. And we talked a little bit about, like, I called it the time accordion, how you're able to like multiply time by delegating tasks, but that there is also huge value in deciding what the tasks are that no one else can do, but you like, what things will go further when only you do them. Um, and we're talking about kind of just, yeah, maximizing your time and efforts. And I asked for what the things are that she's done that help her maximize time. So we talk a little bit about that in the episode. You'll have to come back and listen to how that resolves, but I do think there's, there are ways and a few times in our lives where we can be in two places at once. And when you can do that, great do that. And when you can't great, have someone else go, but I'm glad you're building your skills. I'm glad you're training. I'm glad you're winning and congrats on the gig. Yeah. Um, anybody else wins? What's up? Yes. Max.
Speaker 2 00:05:15 Yeah. So I am choreographing a piece for a show at college, which is a new experience in which I am like terrified and excited for yesterday morning. I sent out an email blast to the whole dance department, just trying to get some dancers. And as of about 10 minutes ago, I have nine of them so far. So I'm just super excited to be like creating with other people and dancing in a room with like human beings. Again, it's been so long.
Speaker 0 00:05:49 Oh my gosh. You're almost burped. My heart is so excited for you. That is awesome. That's a large group. I'm pretty sure. I don't know how conventions break that stuff down is not quite align, but the, I think that's alert group. Where do you go? Max? Happy winning. Okay. So purpose of this call is sort of to get to know the community members a little bit more. The, the faces I'm seeing in this call are faces that I have grown to know and love over the past year or so. Um, but, uh, I'm excited to kind of like take off my podcast hat, take off my coach hat and just be a human being with you guys, a simpler one kind of human being. Um, and I think, you know, one of the, you guys are joining me in my podcast booth where I'm, it's my nature to just talk forever and ever clearly, because that's what I've been doing already for this whole call so far.
Speaker 0 00:06:48 Um, but I, I, I say this a lot when I teach and I truly truly mean it. I think we all have more to gain from discussions versus seminars. Like when I think back to being in school, when I was engaged, when I was activated, when I was like a part of the conversation, that stuff stuck more than when I was being talked at or lectured at. So I'm a very, if you guys have ever taken class with me, you know, this about me, I'm a very vocal class taker. And I really encourage conversation when I teach. I know not everyone is that way, but I believe in conversation, not seminar. So with that being said, I opened the floor to ye good people. Don't stress out, but this call is being recorded. Okay. I know that Riley, you have some stashed away.
Speaker 3 00:07:47 Yeah. I'll start off with like a casual one just to like jump in with the casual check
Speaker 0 00:07:53 Guys breaker.
Speaker 3 00:07:54 Okay, fantastic. Yes. It's a very classic icebreaker. Okay. So if you had to watch one movie for 24 hours oh great. And you come with like nothing else, but no, you're not for the rest of your life, but you would watch one movie for 24 hours straight. No breaks. Yeah. What would that movie be? Obviously,
Speaker 0 00:08:16 It's the Lord of the rings, the trilogy. But if I'm only allowed to pick one, then it would be the return of the king. Okay. But it's basically like, that was a super easy one because it's basically what I do during the holiday seasons. My family, we watch the director's edits, which are four plus hours each. Yes. I'm getting rounds of applause approval. Um, yeah, we, we do that every year. Uh, and you'd be surprised how quickly you 24 hours goes by. Um, but I, I am a person who can binge, like I have the capacity to post up and just take something in all the way in for 24 hours. I could do. I probably, if it was Lord of the rings, I probably wouldn't even get tired. I will tell you this. My most recent binge I'm late. I'm sorry. I'm late. I had been watching like isolated sequences on YouTube, but I just finished the complete marvelous Mrs. Maisel hook hooked. I watched five episodes in one night, um, and completed the first three seasons in one week. So I basically 24 hours. Marvelous, Mrs. Maisel. But I love that question. Where do you, what's yours?
Speaker 3 00:09:42 Oh, uh, captain America, civil war.
Speaker 0 00:09:46 She's a Marvel girl. Y'all really loves that superhero stuff.
Speaker 3 00:09:50 I'm all about that superhero life.
Speaker 0 00:09:51 Okay. If you were a superhero, if you were a Marvel human who? Oh, wait, they're not human. Or the humans. Some are,
Speaker 3 00:09:58 Oh, cool.
Speaker 0 00:09:59 If you were a Marvel, who would you be?
Speaker 3 00:10:01 Like if I was one of the Marvel characters, who would I be? Yeah. Okay. I would be, her name is Scarlet witch. And, uh, she has what they're called hex powers and she can warp reality with those powers and she can also like fly and like read people's minds. And, um, she's also like the point between realities. So she like holds multiple realities together. Um, and so that's what I would love to be used the Scarlet woods.
Speaker 0 00:10:30 Where do I find that character? What movie is she in?
Speaker 3 00:10:34 Uh, first one first, when she shows up in his Avengers, age of Ultron and then she is wanting to maximum. So did you hear one division?
Speaker 0 00:10:42 Yes. That was the thing.
Speaker 3 00:10:43 Wanda is the Scarlet witch. So
Speaker 0 00:10:46 Got you. Oh yeah. Well, there's a likeness there. Yes. Okay. Right on. I hear you. Um, I generally am not a big, huge Lord of the rings fan. Not a huge superhero action type. Um, although when I was a teen, maybe even a tween, let's bring tweens back, show me feeling people go straight to being teenagers. And I'm like, what happened to awkward tween? Anyways, I was an awkward tween for, it seems like forever. And I was very much interested in Chris O'Donnell who played Robin next to I believe it was George Clooney's Batman. That'll tell you. I don't even remember who Batman was. I was so about Chris O'Donnell and I think Jim Carrey was the joker in that one. I'm pretty sure. Um, anyways, that's me and superhero movies. I love like Courtney Darko is still an awkward tween. I there's something there like marketing wise that we could really, I think we could be like a tween dance team, a dance tween, look out. America's got talent. Here we come. Um, who's got next. I'm not going to last very long. You guys, this shit strong
Speaker 1 00:12:10 Circling back. Um, I don't know that you've ever talked about how did the love of Lord of the rings come to beat?
Speaker 0 00:12:18 I feel like this should just be exclusively. The only questions that we'll accept for the rest of the session must be related to the word of Marines and or Peter Jackson and or Orlando gloom. Cause he's my baby. Uh, how did that come to be? Great question. Oh, wow. Thank you for asking, because this is digging up something that I have not visited in quite a while. I had a high school crush slash boyfriend. I don't remember if he ever dawned the official title of boyfriend, but I had a crush in high school that was very much about the Lord of the rings. And by that, I mean, he read the books. I didn't read the books, but we went to see the midnight showing, like he was so about it that we went to see, like on opening night at midnight, there were people fully in costume and like cloaks and capes and staffs and pointy hats and stuff. And I was like, what is this world that you have brought me into? And then I, I fell in love with it. Certainly more in love with it than with him, although he was a great guy, stand up, outstanding citizen. Um, but yeah, I, that was a, I was hooked and somehow my family was on board with that and it just, it became our tradition.
Speaker 0 00:13:46 Yeah. Good question. She's like, yeah, I know we have to know the origins. I hadn't thought about that. Like, what was the, what was the beginning moment? I don't know, but it led to a lot of great moments. I, when we were on tour with JT in New Zealand, I actually went to middle earth. I went to the Shire, the place where they built Hobbiton and all of the little Hobbit holes. And I went in them and I took photos and I had a beer at the green dragon, which is the bar. And it was like, it was no small event. Y'all it was like a two hour bus ride. It was just me and a couple of crew guys. I was like, I tried to get the dancers on board. Nobody's feeling it, but shit, you know, I have like probably 150 plus photos of that day. I'll share some of them on the release of this episode. Uh, who else? What else? We got questions. Another one hit me ready.
Speaker 3 00:14:43 Okay. I am really excited to hear this one. What is your either funniest or biggest, biggest mess up on stage, more in performance ever slash what's that story? I would just love to know.
Speaker 0 00:15:01 Yeah, that's a good one. Um, I wish Marty was here to tell this story. I will never ever lift this down. Um, I think, you know, because I have been with JT, like a part of Marty's team for a very long time, since I was, I think I started assisting Marty when I was 18, probably. Um, I established a reputation for being on it and I loved being on it and I loved not, not being on it. You know, like those are two different things. Like I really like being on it, but I really, really hate not being on it. So I established this reputation for, you know, at least I think, or I hope that I don't mess up very often. And so on this one particular night in Ricky eVic, if I'm not mistaken, we were filming the show. It's a live taped and streamed concert.
Speaker 0 00:16:15 It's the simple things, you know, simpler wines, but in take back the night or there was a, there was a, oh damn there was a medley. There was like, you know, several songs kind of smashed together. I don't know. We usually have a moving part of the stage that goes like out into the crowd and comes back. But because we were on an unusual stage, we didn't have that. So we built in this fun little party dance, you do two eights of each groove, and then you do move on to the next group. I was on the wrong step, probably four or five steps in a row. And by the time I found it, they were onto the next one and I was doing the wrong one again. No, no matter what I did, it was not the right dance. And I am in the front row standing next to Jay.
Speaker 0 00:17:10 And he's looking at me like, are you kidding? Like this must be, you're doing that on purpose now for sure. And I'm like, I'm lost, I'm lost. You know, that nightmare that you have where you're like, you can't run or you're drowning or you forget the moves and you're on stage real life. That was my real life. And nothing I could do. I was like, surely this is the right one. Surely we're doing the Bismarck key right now. No, we're not. No, we're not. We're doing the shovel, the funk right now. And I'm like, oh great. Okay. So after the shovel funk, Shirley comes the prep. No, it's not the prep. And after that, maybe it's maybe it's the kid in play. No, it's definitely not. You're the only one on stage doing that. And when I tell you only one S onstage, our background vocalists are nailing it.
Speaker 0 00:17:53 Our band is due. They're doing these dances. It's not just like a dancer moment. This is like, everyone on stage is doing something unified. And then there's me. That was the most embarrassing thing. And it won't go away. It's, it's the best joke that anyone ever has. Marty will ask me, Hey, can you do that? Maybe lead us through a take back the night real quick. It's fine. It's fine. I'm fine. I'm not worried about it. It's fine. I'm over it. I still have nightmares. Actually. I do have a recurring nightmare about being called back out on the road and looking at everyone, doing the choreography that I should know. Like I should know, like I love you. And I do know it's in my bones, but I'm watching everyone else around me doing something else. And it's terrifying. That's a good one. Thank you for bringing that back to my, to the forefront. That feeling my heart is
Speaker 3 00:18:55 The, as max asked is, since this was taped, is this something that we can go find
Speaker 0 00:19:02 Or enough to find out? I
Speaker 3 00:19:04 Will. I will go searching for that.
Speaker 0 00:19:07 I'm 99% sure. It's Ricky. Vic, should we call Marty dog real quick? Let's do it. Doug. Doug. . I have a question. Um, by the way, I am currently in a live, uh, zoom call with, uh, a small group of my podcast community. And somebody just asked me what is the most embarrassing onstage moment that I've ever had. And, um, I recalled the 2020 show. Was it Ricky Vick? Is that where we were? That I could not collect myself enough to do a party dance during take back the night.
Speaker 4 00:20:00 I don't remember where it was at. Definitely somewhere on a festival show.
Speaker 0 00:20:06 And it was taped. Was it not like it was live?
Speaker 4 00:20:09 Yeah. Pro for sure. It was a huge shell, but I don't remember where it was at you because you kept the whole story just kept you could, I don't think he did it right. Once It was hard because it was at this party then at the other party to ask that you would just fuck up or somehow.
Speaker 0 00:20:32 And no matter where I caught up, whatever I thought was happening next was not what was happening.
Speaker 4 00:20:38 Yeah. And then you'd make you think you're going to the next groove in his bed and just having this up different. And I think that's the thing. It's time to play. We had been talking about it a lot. So Justin was just standing there, like, uh, like, like watching you the whole time making you nervous, which is hilarious.
Speaker 0 00:20:55 So he was punking me. And if I recall correctly, like the BVS were up there with us, some of the band was up there with, it was not just like, Well, if you're able to find that, I think I have a lot of people that would be interested in seeing it, myself included.
Speaker 4 00:21:17 I don't know if I have it on tape. I have to be on YouTube somewhere. Like, I don't think I personally have it, but it definitely happened to be a YouTube. Not bet you, we can figure out what shows
Speaker 0 00:21:29 Really, really thinking it was Ricky Vick. Cause we wouldn't have had our stage out there
Speaker 4 00:21:35 And you know what else? I don't know. So help us find it. And I know that there was like, and it wasn't that real plate, but it was somewhere that we were just there for like, literally as a first time and only time doing a festival of this place. And there was definitely rides there, but it wasn't in the middle of the tour. It was before the, it was like, like fair, like Ferris wheels and shit, definitely before the tour started it wasn't the one that we did mentor when I came out and uh, I filled in for Lionel and Lionel's brother was getting married and some festival that we did in the UK alternate state. And, but we didn't, by that time, we weren't even, we didn't do the group maybe that day because
Speaker 0 00:22:23 Oh, it was let the groove get in. Thank you. I've been saying take back the night. That was wrong. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yes. That song is still with me now. I have chills. All right. Well
Speaker 4 00:22:36 I've also had to remember. I mean, yeah, it probably won't be as funny as you remember though, because that's, what's funny is you're right.
Speaker 0 00:22:42 Moment felt like forever. It felt like a year of doing the wrong stuff.
Speaker 4 00:22:48 If not, when do you remember when many of you and you can, and I messed up this shit doing the wrong part and charges started valid and stuff.
Speaker 0 00:23:04 Yes, I do remember that. Oh shit. It was also because it was so easy. It was hard. Like we all learned a closing number. Yes. Oh.
Speaker 4 00:23:11 And we learned it in the hallway, like two seconds earlier that like 2.8 seconds earlier in the day came back, like, yeah, we got it. And then right. The funny thing with that story is right. And from when we went on stage, uh, could, I think it was Kelly and Marty were there with them, I think were there and Rhea and all that, like all the, like the who's going to the, you know, tight, but right before we go on stage, I think it was, um, I think it was them two and Marty. So you like, the music is playing. It tells just so you know, this is an honor to share the stage of you. I'm like, why'd you just say that right now? I just totally trashed the combo.
Speaker 0 00:24:00 This is important. We should teach a class. That's like basic moves, but under tremendous pressure. And if you can get through that, then you're like,
Speaker 4 00:24:11 I'm going. I tried to do that in my, across the floor. And I told them like, even in the advanced room, like I don't do it across the floor through metal office, but I've been doing it more. So because I'm like, yeah, you can make all my speeches. I think I'm in everybody's class and you're doing this crazy choreography, like the, you know, the type of style and you look amazing. But if you're just supposed to do like a simple glue, you look like trash. Like, what are you talking? I'm going to give you two easy counts and don't make it look like trash, make it look, make it look fresh. Amazing. It's crazy how active people are.
Speaker 0 00:24:50 Um, basic dance under tremendous pressure will be the name of my class from here on, uh, thank you for reliving that story and for being an, an unexpected, special guest on my podcast right now. All right, bye. I'm smiling really hard. My cheeks hurt. Have you, have you guys ever, just maybe like not of head or show of hands, have you ever forgotten what you're doing on stage complete blank? Okay. 100%. Everyone has forgotten what they're doing on stage. What do you do? What do you do?
Speaker 1 00:25:25 I got a story time. Well, um, nowadays just trying to like pick back up, but when I was little, my first dance competition was a trio to teach me how to shimmy. It was tapped. And one of my, I forget what, yes. Oh yes. One of my friends forgot and messed up. And then the other friend followed her. And, but I remembered, but I looked like I was wrong because it was a trio and it was great. That's deep. Yes. And so then we realized, oh, you're well, and we figured out we got back together and on the judges tape, they corrections, they said, if you make a mistake, just smile and shake,
Speaker 0 00:26:10 Which is so appropriate for teaching me how to shimmy. That's really, truly all you have to do shimmy down, you all here in the zoom room and anyone who's listening, have my word that the next time I blank on stage or on camera, I will shake. I will show me when doubt shimmy it out. Yes. Um, I genuinely, I think my go-to is what I call the one eye Jack or the side eye, if you will. And I have my peripheral vision game has gotten very strong from, uh, like kind of collecting or like sussing out the group. You know, what is everyone else doing while still giving on the frontal like performance mode? I know what I'm doing, but I'm 100% looking at the very limits of my vision for any information at all of what you do. But the JT experience, I was different.
Speaker 0 00:27:08 I was so far lost that I was like, it was performative. It was like a clown experience. Everyone was in on the joke except for me. And I was just the butt of it. It was perfect. Oh, is there a question here? Ah, Ooh, nice. Oh, that is such a good question. Oh, I love this does saying no to opportunities ever get easier also. How do you say no to things that you really want to do, but can't I love this question saying no 100% gets easier because when you're able to think of no to one thing, meaning yes. To something else saying no is very empowering thing to do. But when you think that you're saying no to something and in essence, no to everything then no socks, no is a hard one to say, especially when like in our, within our gig worker culture, like you say, yes, you say yes to everything and you jump at the opportunity for any opportunity.
Speaker 0 00:28:25 And so no is almost like this dirty word in training, but when no to that means yes to something else it's actually quite easy. And when you believe that other opportunities will come, then no is just a notch in the belt to getting to the next. Yes. I actually also talked about this on the podcast with Jerry Brown today, my sister who has been a guest on the podcast, she's a physician and she's also a coach. She recently applied for a grant, a big, big grant in the multiple millions of dollars of grant. So this is substantial. The application process was brutal. She worked on it with a teammate for a long time and was extremely confident that they would be successful. She told colleagues about it, told friends about, I mean, didn't, she didn't tell people that she had it, but she was confident in her pursuit of it and that, and that they would be successful.
Speaker 0 00:29:26 She was planning a celebration. She was feeling her future self in the process. And she did not receive the grant. She was denied. And we talked a little bit about how she grieved that and how she mourned it. And she told me something fascinating that I have promised to do for myself, but haven't yet. And that is to make a resume the same way that you would, the gigs that you've worked, but a resume of gigs that you've missed or of gigs that did not pan out. And I think that like simply honoring them visually gives you a sense of pride about like, oh my God, well, like my actual resume. Yeah. Like that's, that's cool. But whoa, look at how much I have to be proud of enduring. Look at the number of rejections that did not stop me. Like I am fucking unstoppable.
Speaker 0 00:30:21 Look at the pages on my actual resume is one page. I keep it very tight. Um, but like the number of rejections, the number of nos or the number of cutting room floors and you know, all of that I think is as empowering. So I think of nos as no thank yous or no, not right now. And that saying no to this thing is saying yes to something else. Um, so that's, that's my answer to that. How do you say no to things that you really want to do, but can't, uh, with gratitude and with appreciation and with like celebrating. Yes. Oh, thank you for, I am receiving that ask. All right. Yes. Thank you for asking. Um, any other thoughts, conversations, ideas
Speaker 5 00:31:12 I'm here. Um, I just wanted to ask you, Dana, I am such a fan of you and your approach and your energy and your brain and your spirit. And I'm curious what happens inside of your brain with margination in your process when you are to choreograph a new project, what, what sparks off, what starts? What gets you excited?
Speaker 0 00:31:38 Okay. Ooh. What gets me excited, man, everything, everything gets me excited, so it can be tough to edit down what I want to F where I want to focus my excitement, um, regarding my creative process. It honestly, the process itself like beginning, middle end depends on the project. So creative process for pop star music video, very different than creative process for seaweed sisters, very different than creative process for in the Heights. Very different than creative process for solo personal project. Um, I, I started a new project a couple of days ago because I was ripped from my body, um, watching an episode of the marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Um, and I was really taken by the actor, Luke Kirby's performance of Lenny Bruce on Steve Allen, which was, uh, like a historical monumental and captured performance and the actual recreated it. And it was riveting on its own, but even more impressive side by side, when you look at at Lenny Bruce's actual performance, and then you watch, uh, Luke's side-by-side.
Speaker 0 00:33:01 And so, um, that's even yet another process. When I work on character development projects, for example, I worked with an actor who will be portraying Elvis in Baz Luhrmann's upcoming for that project. Part of my job was, uh, an insane amount of research, reading all the books, watching all the clips, watching all the interviews, watching all the movies, watching all of the, all of the Milton Berle show and all of the hound dog and all of the things a million times like that was part of my process for that. Um, and so anyways, that's why this Lenny Bruce things spoke to me because I know how much time goes into something like that. Anyways, I fell in love with the piece. And so now I'm working on a version of the piece for myself or maybe for the world who knows, but that process is different than, you know, creating something for a commercial spot or something like that.
Speaker 0 00:34:03 So when it's me, when it's, for me, it always starts with, you know, something that catches my eye and I believe is worthy of deeper investigation. And then I go and I investigate when it's a commercial. I usually try to, at least if I can't actually fall in love with it, I try to fall in love with the product and find things that I think are awesome about it. And then I make it my job to show people. What's awesome about that thing. Um, music always helps, uh, when I'm working on a music video, I love working closely with the artist and that becomes less about my process. More about theirs. Um, that becomes about being a collaborator who can say yes or yes. And which brings me back to the seaweed sisters. We are the, the chief of yes. And that is our, our one rule is that we say yes to things and then we build, and then we take a vote and two out of three wins. Um, so that's kind of a, I guess a crash course in my, my different processes, but no, no two things have been the same for me. Um, but following what excites me is always there, I suppose. Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:35:31 Is there anything you, you haven't touched on yet in your career Really excites you like some kind of, I say crazy, but knowing that crazy is not crazy in our world and that totally still come true. But then it kind of like wild dream that you had as a child that you suddenly have started thinking about now as an adult, because you did all the other,
Speaker 0 00:35:56 All the things like checked all the boxes. Yeah. I have not checked all the boxes yet. There are still boxes left unchecked and, and one of them is the box. That's like the multi box. Like I'm doing this while I'm doing that. Like that is actually one box. I'm nurturing my relationship. I'm fulfilled outside of my work and in my work, I'm doing this and I'm doing that and I'm doing that. So it's like, it's not necessarily that I have like new boxes to check. It's just that I hope to be keeping the keeping, you know, balls in play and I'm juggling and I'm keeping everything in play. Um, love the word balls. So one of my favorites, thank you for the visual. We're juggling eggs in zoom, just so you know, uh, I have a vision, a dream for the seaweed sisters. We've talked about it only in a hypothetical type of way, but I do think that we are capable and that we have the resources to make this happen.
Speaker 0 00:37:02 Um, we have all agreed that we would like to do an evening length show, like a full top to bottom show. And what I would love to do on top of that is have a series. I think that we belong either and or both on a, uh, like children's program all off the Sesame street. Like we could be series regulars on the Sesame street. I've always been about the disguise of education as entertainment. I am huge on educating. I love being a teacher and I love being, um, sharing information and helping being an advocate, being a helper, being a conduit to other people's success versus just like out there being successful has always spoken to me. And, um, I would love to see the seaweed sisters who unintentionally, by the way, we did not do this deliberately. Like we did not sit and have a marketing branding meeting about who our audience was and decided that it was five-year-olds, but young people take really well to our stuff.
Speaker 0 00:38:18 And we've heard from their parents, we've seen it on their faces, like the seaweed sisters speak to young people. So I would love for us to do a, a, uh, a children's driven educational spot and, or a travel channel related series where we just board a triple seven and it lands somewhere and we make something there. And then we get back on it and you'll see us next week. And we don't know where we'll land, but I think our stuff has always been so site-specific that something like that could be super interesting where we just have a limited amount of time to prep and produce, but we use the space around us. And that is so it's always been such a driving principle for us, the idea of exploration and wonder, and for us to be like, just dropped in a place and find it so wonderful. Oh, I would, I, I want to watch that show. I guess the work that I want to do is the work that I wish was out there already. So those are, those are a few, um, we do, we, we have a children's gym story, please, please tell me. I love children dance related stories.
Speaker 6 00:39:34 Oh, I have stories upon stories, one stories, which I messaged you. I saw a two year old wearing Yeezys, like official brand Yeezys. And that is something I can't see. And it's like the ones that look like, uh, Crocs or ones. Um, they make them for like two year olds, which is something I did not know. Um,
Speaker 0 00:40:00 I did not know that. And I have to say, I thought they were ridiculous even on adults. Um, so ridiculous to the second, I guess. I don't know, but also I get the aesthetic, like they're different in their unique, and it's a flex, like why wear Yeezys when your two year olds can wear easies? You know what I mean? Kind of get it.
Speaker 6 00:40:28 And no one will be fit for two, three weeks max.
Speaker 0 00:40:32 Right? Exactly. That, listen, my husband and I do not plan on procreation. It is not a part of our value system in the world, but I think if I were to have children, they would be bare for the naked. I just like it there. Can I say that now? Of course, but I do love small things, small shoes, small socks, small pants, small overalls, small little fitted hat. I mean, come on. It's pretty cute. I get it. Like small things are cute just by novelty,
Speaker 5 00:41:05 But so are hand me downs from your friends or from your family. Like, it's so amazing, you know, like
Speaker 0 00:41:10 The handmade stuff and
Speaker 5 00:41:12 Handmade things like it's trying to get like handed over and then you're not causing the planet more harm by buying. That's why
Speaker 0 00:41:22 I love that. I love a reuse, renew, reuse, recycle approach. My nieces are wearing hand-me-downs that my sister and I were, it was pretty cute actually. And they know them. So my, my niece Millie, who's eight. She'd be like, Hey, auntie Dana, what do you think of my dress? Is this familiar? Is this dress familiar to you? Do you know about this dress? Because she knows. And I'm like, oh, that is familiar. That looks like my dress or your mom's dress. I think that, that like the hand me down. That's awesome. But I also think that things like this, you goes, my favorite shoe ever are going to get so much where I don't know, maybe this could last forever. It's like pretty industrial duty. This is my clog that I'm flexing. Some people flex easies. I flex clogs, let it be known that it's 80 degrees outside and I'm still wearing this sheepskin lined clog because it's the most comfortable. Um, but I'm going to wear these till they're unwearable. I don't know that they'll be able to be passed down. I like, I like things. I love to love my, my stuff until it's, unwearable, that's my that's kind of my personal style.
Speaker 0 00:42:40 I love. Um, okay, well, we're very close to the end of my glass of wine. Any, uh, any final thoughts or questions from the group? I have very much enjoyed this. Yeah, bring it. Oh, we got two more. Yeah.
Speaker 5 00:42:54 I'm curious if you've ever been in job situations and we all sign NDAs and stuff, so no names, but have you ever been in a job situation that was, um, slightly abusive in energy or toxic? Um, like in, in a way where like you were basically told, well deal with it or leave and like, have you ever left like, um,
Speaker 0 00:43:17 Great question. I came very close to a walk-off situation kind of recently. Um, and I, yeah, it was a, uh, physical body risk situation, super high up platform, no supports, no mats, just like that seems risky. And I assessed the situation for myself and I knew that I am in control of my body and that, unless I lose control of my body, I will be safe. So I knew that I could maintain control by myself. There were no other factors that could, you know, come into play. I just, I felt a deep knowing for myself that I would be okay, that it wasn't standard, that it definitely would require a hazard bump, but that I, I didn't fear for my life. And that was okay. Um, before that I can recall several gigs in environments where language was abusive or, you know, less than encouraging.
Speaker 0 00:44:27 And I think for sensitive people, sometimes anything less than encouraging can feel abusive, but then there is straight up like abusive language. These are different things. But I think before, you know, at the time when those things were happening to me, I thought that that was normal. And it's sad to say that out loud, it speaks to, you know, our, our kind of culture, but I thought that it was normal. And I thought that it was part of the job was enduring that and coming out resilient on the other side, I thought that that was literally part of being a professional was enduring or tolerating or becoming resilient to that sort of thing. I have a slightly different perspective on that. Now I do think, you know, as a society and as a dance community, when you know better, you should do better. And when you find out that you can get fabulous results without not fabulous behavior, sorry, double negatives, kind of confusing.
Speaker 0 00:45:31 Um, you don't have to be ruthless or mean to get great results. And once you know that, you know, you should, you, you, you could behave differently. But I think there are people who don't know that yet. I think there are people who think that that's how you get results. And for them, I can say, oh, that's so interesting that you still believe that that's the way to get things done. That's unfortunate for you. I'm going to believe in my way of getting things done, which is encouragement, positive. Self-talk critical thinking and managing my mind, but you keep doing that thing. That's unfortunate for you. I probably won't see you again, because you've probably noticed that I'm not phased by what you're doing. And I have noticed that I don't like what you're doing. So, you know, cheers and see on the other side. But I, I do think that as a collective, our consciousness is shifting towards, you know, unhealthy behavior breeds, unhealthy results, and that it is possible to get an outstanding result without being, uh, abusive. Um, you know, I, I, yeah, I've never quit on the job. I have declined. Plenty of gigs. I have passed on plenty of gigs. I have straight up said no without reason without like, oh, I have another thing. It's just, no, I would rather not. Um, and that's because I'm now I'm an empowered person who believes that I can shape myself instead of, I need someone else to shape me.
Speaker 0 00:47:21 Yeah. Amen. To all of that. Thanks for sharing that. Thank you. Thank you for asking and amen to all you amen. To the very first ever Widom come happy hour. I'm so glad you joined me. I'm still a little, I'm like feeling a little rosy in my cheeks. I need to go have a bite to eat, perhaps. Um, Riley, did you have one more? Was there one word
Speaker 3 00:47:43 It's I'm sweating? Do you want a silly one to end it? Let's
Speaker 0 00:47:46 Let's let's put a cherry on top.
Speaker 3 00:47:49 Um, so if space travel was like intensely advanced, like tomorrow. Yeah. Out of all of the dancers that you know, who would be the first one to dance in space, do you believe
Speaker 0 00:48:06 Who's doing the first space tour? I mean, I want to say it would be me, but I don't know if that's real. I'm getting a lot of snaps of encouragement. I, yeah, I would love that. I do think there are people more dare. I say viral, that would go to the lengths of space to get those views. And they would probably be highly competitive in the pursuit of that headlining slot. I probably would not compete with them in the bargaining for that role, but I would love to perform in space. Are you kidding me? Anti-gravity dance. This is like my dream.
Speaker 0 00:48:56 Oh, my jumps would be so much better. Or would they not because you do kind of have to come down. Oh, follow-up to that. What would be the first step that I would do in space? A pod Baret, hands down. It's my number one. Tiki Tiki to tick. It might even be a six step period just to give you just for the, just for the spins and giggles, just to see what happens there. Oh, with a back touch, turn out to hear out, to hear back touch, turn with a hand around the head, a double pero wet. Just keep it clean. We don't need to push for the triple we're in space after all. We're not sure. I love that ending note. Thank you so much for that, right? We thank you guys. All for being here. I really appreciate this. We'll do this again. Sometime. Love you guys. Talk to you soon.
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